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Q & A: Let’s Talk About STRESS

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Every Tuesday, I’ll choose a handful of questions to answer here on my blog, as long as the questions last. Want to ask me about unschooling or parenting or anything else I write about (which is, uh, pretty much everything)? Send them here, or post on my Facebook page.  

I’ve gotten quite a few questions in this realm:

 

How do you handle stress? What happens when you’re feeling overwhelmed and need a break but you’ve got three kids demanding your attention and you’re the only adult home? (The ‘advice’ I am frequently given, unasked for, is to send my children to school… I’d love to hear a better suggestion.)

 

I have four kids, not three;  but other than that one detail I could (and certainly have) ask that same exact question myself.   Parenting in general is a 24/7 job, no matter who you are.  Add to that the fact that as a stay-at-home, homeschooling parent, you are ON All. The. Time.  No breaks.  No time outs.  No time to yourself.   If you’re someone like me who is easily prone to overwhelm, you definitely have to take proactive steps to avoid burnout.

As you’ve already noticed, the world will tell you that the solution is simple:  Get away from your kids.  Moms are told over and over not only that it’s okay, but that it’s GOOD to get away from your kids.  You need a break to be a better mother, they’ll tell you.  So send ’em off to preschool!  Make them sleep in the other room!   Leave them with a sitter while you go off on a kid-less vacation!

I think there’s a better way.  I think that the solution to stress and overwhelm and burnout is not to get away from your kids, but to design your lifestyle so that you won’t feel the need to get away.  So that you can be there, especially in those important early years, when they need you, and so you can actually ENJOY it.   Which means recognizing and heading off the stress before it sends you screaming for the hills.

Which means taking care of you.

It always makes me sort of…. grumpy when people suggest things like basic self care when things are stressful.  You don’t get it!  This can’t be fixed by eating right and exercising!  And you know what?  Maybe it can’t. But it does make the stressful stuff a whole lot easier to deal with.  A pattern I’ve recognized in myself when I’m not mindful of avoiding it is that when I get super stressed, I just stop taking care of myself.  I just stop.  Stop eating right.  Stop making sleep a priority.  Stop exercising.  Start self-medicating with sweets, caffeine and/or alcohol. Which of course makes me MORE stressed, which makes me less likely to take care of myself, which makes me more stressed, which makes me less likely….. well, you get the idea.  It’s an ugly and vicious circle.

So it starts there.  Like the proverbial airplane oxygen mask:  You have to put your own on first before you can take care of your kids.  Eating well, getting enough sleep, getting enough exercise, paying attention to your own physical, spiritual, and emotional needs goes a LONG way in helping you to more patiently and lovingly meet the needs of the people around you.

At this point, you’re likely thinking, “Well, that’s all nice and everything, but it doesn’t HELP me. What do I do in that moment when the baby is screaming because she’s teething and the naked two year old just dumped a bag of flour on the kitchen floor and the 8 year old is crying because the 5 year old just threw a remote control at his head and all the excitement made the dog pee on the carpet?!”

Here’s what you do:

  1. BREATHE.  I know, that sounds like a worn old cliche too, but I cannot emphasize enough how important it is!       You have to start with breathing.  Good deep breaths, and a count to ten.  Or a hundred.  Or six thousand.  It  oxygenates your body, slows your heart rate, and literally calms you from the inside out.
  2. DELIBERATELY LOWER YOUR VOICE.  This has been a huge one for me.  When I open my mouth and find that something… loud.. is about to come out, I take a breath, and lower my voice.  To a whisper if I have to.  It both calms me down, and doesn’t further escalate the situation with the kids.
  3. FIND A WAY TO TAKE A BREAK TOGETHER.  This is the one that takes the trial and error.  Once the immediate crisis is past (ie:  no one’s bleeding anymore) find a way to regroup that works for your family. The flour can stay on the kitchen floor for a little while. Watch a movie together.  Go outside so the kids can run and you can sit. Blow some bubbles.  Get out the coloring books.  Play with water.  When my now six year old was around three, there were some days that the only thing that relieved the stress – both hers and mine – were baths. I’d fix her a bath with all her favorite toys, I’d make myself a cup of coffee, and I’d sit and gather my bearings on the bathroom flour while she splashed and played, for hours sometimes.
  4. REACH OUT TO SOMEONE.  A friend (or a parent or a sibling or a cousin or a spouse) that you can text and vent to… someone who you can just tell, without judgement, “Wow, what a crappy day I had”  is invaluable.
  5. LEAVE THE PAST IN THE PAST.  One of the best pieces of parenting advice I ever heard was this:  When you have a stressful moment, or an inpatient moment, or a moment that you wished you’d handled differently as a parent… learn from it and move the heck on. It’s over.  Make the NEXT moment a good one.  Don’t think about the past, and don’t worry about what’s going to come after the next moment.    Focus on one moment at a time.  And finally,
  6. FIND YOUR DE-STRESSERS AND PRACTICE THEM, REGULARLY.   This really goes under the very first point of taking care of yourself, but it’s important in the immediate sense too.  Whether it’s a bath, or a glass of wine, or time in meditation or prayer or Bible study, or yoga, or running, or dance, or creative pursuits like writing, or drawing, or painting, or making things with your hands….. whatever it is for you, find the time to make it happen, whether it means getting up a little earlier, staying up a little later, or taking a few minutes while the kids play with Dad.  It’s so easy to say, “I don’t have time to do that,” but the fact is, you can’t afford not to do that.

I’ll admit that stress gets the better of me sometimes (um, I may have just posted about that fact just a few days ago)  but it doesn’t have to, and I know that.

I LOVE staying home with my kids, and the very good days so absolutely make up for the not-so-good days.  My hope and prayer when it comes to stress and parenting and my kids is that they learn that yes, you can’t always avoid stress…. but that you never have to let it win.

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Q & A – Unschooling Basics

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Every Tuesday, I’ll choose a handful of questions to answer here on my blog, as long as the questions last. Want to ask me about unschooling or parenting or anything else I write about (which is, uh, pretty much everything)? Send them here, or post on my Facebook page.  

This week, it’s all about unschooling!  Next week, I’ll focus on some parenting questions.

What does an average day at your house look like?

This is always a hard question to answer, because so much of it depends on the time of year, the season, what everyone’s interested in at the time, if people are wanting to be out and about or are more inclined to stay home, etc.  One of the really great things about unschooling – and homeschooling in general – is that it largely allows you to follow your family’s natural rhythms, rather than being confined to someone else’s schedule.

Lately, things have been… crazy.  So for the most part, the kids and I are appreciating the downtime when we get it. Spencer, who’s 17, and setting the groundwork for a lawn care and small engine repair business, will spend a lot of the day in the garage working on his engines, outside testing out weed-whackers, studying for his next test, or playing games on the computer with his friends (he runs his own Minecraft server.) Paxton, who’s 14 and by far the biggest introvert of the bunch, is the one I have to make sure I connect with or I’d never see him.  🙂 He spends his time on his computer fairly exclusively. Everett is 10 and busy busy busy.  He loves the computer like his brothers, and he also loves animals, science, karate, experimenting, moving around, and accompanying his mom on errands.  He’s always got some sort of project going on.  Currently, it’s a triops he hatched about a week ago.  Tegan, at 6, seems to have one foot still in “little girlhood”, and another foot confidently exploring her independence.  She loves to play games with me, of all kinds.  Loves to bake.  Loves to play with her friends. Loves music and dance.  Loves her TV shows.  She’s recently begun playing Minecraft, and has a brand-new little Skype buddy.  🙂  My role in all of it?  To be here, in whatever ways they need.  I pursue my own interests too (and at the present time, am busy working on conference planning), but my first priority is them:  Getting them what they need, bringing them where they need to go, answering questions, playing, talking, listening, helping, showing.  And Googling.  Always lots and lots of Googling.

What activities do your children do that are run by others e.g ballet etc?  And do you find that these activities are enough for your kids to make friends?

What’s interesting to me about this question is that it’s one I would have asked myself 15 years ago.  I too thought that my kids would make their friends through “extracurriculars.”  And they’ve done a LOT of them too. Between the four of them over the years we’ve had basketball, baseball, karate, gymnastics, fencing, Cub Scouts, ballet, and likely many more that I’m forgetting.  The older two don’t really have any outside activities at the moment, and the younger two are down to two activities each (gymnastics and ballet for Tegan;  gymnastics and karate for Everett).  They’ve enjoyed all the activities they’ve done, and they have made friends – or at least been friendly with – other kids in their classes….. but that’s not really where they’ve made their good friends.  Most of their best friends (and they certainly have no shortage of friends) are either fellow unschoolers/homeschoolers that they’ve met and connected with through homeschool groups, field trips, etc, or met on their own through mutual friends, OR met on the internet through shared interests.   The friendships that they’ve formed inspire me.  They are true and long-lasting.  In just a couple of weeks, Paxton (14) is going to get on airplane to stay with a friend in Michigan for a couple of weeks.  They’re going to fly back together in time for the conference, then his friend is going to stay with us a couple of weeks as well.  I realize that people can and do still visit with friends when they’re in school…  but generally not when school’s actually in session, and generally not for a month at a time.  I’m excited for him that he gets this opportunity.

What kind of things do you do to provide a learning environment for your children and how does it work if you have more than one?

LIFE is the ultimate learning environment.  I know, I know.  It sounds corny.  But it’s true.  I think the best thing parents can do to provide a learning environment for their kids is to just be involved in their lives, and let them be involved in yours.   We’re a family, so we do life together. Beyond that though, just practically speaking, it’s important to have interesting things to play/read/explore/discover, both in and outside the house.  Books, games, toys, puzzles, movies, an internet connection, Netflix, computers, art supplies, science kits, a zoo membership, a Science Center membership, interesting people, interesting places… the list goes on.   When they have a specific interest, I do everything I can to help them explore it (a recent example is here), and as long as money or practicality is not a factor, I support spur-of-the-moment wishes too (that’s how Everett ended up with his Triops)

As for having more than one child…. I think the most honest thing I can say is that you find a way to work it out. My kids are all about 3.5 years apart, so I’m going to have had a very different experience in that regard than my friend who has 5 children 10 and under, including a set of twins.  There are seasons that are more difficult than others (for example, when one child is going through a period when they need all of mom’s attention, all of the time, and doesn’t want to share), but overall, you find your groove.  🙂  You do things together, you do things separately, you take some one on one with each child… it works.

Do you have a routine/structure at all? 

Other than that opposed by outside activities (ie:  we have gymnastics on Tuesday afternoons, karate and ballet on Saturday mornings, church on Saturday night), probably not in the way you’d ordinarily think of “structure”, no. We do however have a rhythm to our days, and again it depends on what’s going on at the time. I always hesitate a bit with this question, because I think that the misconception will be that if there’s no routine, the house is chaos, and it’s not the case.  It is…. free-flowing…. but not chaotic.   If we have nowhere to be, we sleep until we’re rested.  The kids all get up at different times, so they eat when they get up. Our day may then take us to any number of different activities, either at home or away…. and we all come together to eat dinner when my husband gets home from work.  We wind down in the evenings, and go to bed when we’re tired (with a resulting “bedtime” that looks very different than the mainstream, particularly for the 14 and 10 year old who are currently on vampire schedules and stay up most of the night.)

But it works.  And when it doesn’t… when there are kinks, or someone’s not happy, or someone’s not getting needs met… we fix it.

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Bedtimes, Limits, and Baby Steps

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I recently received an email that asked a couple of great questions that really spoke to a larger issue, one that gets brought up a lot.

 

There are two things I’m wondering if you can help me understand. I’ve read your posts on no tv limits and no bedtime. At what age did you begin that with your kids? I’m wondering if that’s something I should consider starting now for my 3 yr old, or if I should wait until she’s older. What are your thoughts there?

 

First, I would caution anyone – at any stage of unschooling – against making any extreme changes all at once.  (Ie: Kids have an 8:00 bedtime their whole lives, and mom one day announces, “From now on, no more bedtimes. Stay up as late you want.”)  Such a drastic step rarely goes well, causes stress and chaos, and makes it far too easy to slip into a mentality of “anything goes,” which is the antithesis of thoughtful unschooling.  Instead, say “yes” more often.   Take baby steps.  Make gradual changes.  Follow Sandra Dodd’s advice of “read a little, try a little, wait, watch.”   Think of the goal of having a happy, peaceful, respectful relationship with your kids… not of giving them total freedom (which doesn’t really exist anyway.)

A few days ago, I read a post from a well-meaning and frustrated mom who’d recently started unschooling, and had done away with a set bedtime for her very young – 3 or 4 year old – daughter.  The girl was literally staying up all night, until 4 or 5 in the morning.  She was making noise and making it difficult for others to sleep, and she was (understandably!) exhausted and cranky the next day.   The current situation was clearly not working, for anyone involved, but mom was confused about what she should or should not do about it, because “unschoolers don’t have bedtimes.”

ALL kids, unschoolers or not, need sleep.  ALL families, unschoolers or not, need to work together to respect everyone’s needs if the household is going to operate as one cohesive, peaceful unit.

We don’t have set bedtimes – for any of our kids –  but sleep and the nighttime routine are definitely one of those fluid, ever-changing things that we often have to re-evaluate.   Most nights, I don’t know when the 16 and 13 year old go to bed, because I go to bed before them. They’re usually happily playing on their computers, and/or Skypping with friends when I say goodnight.  They go to bed when they’re tired, and sleep as late as they need. When our schedules change for whatever reason, they use their alarm clocks, and/or go to bed a bit earlier each night to get re-acclimated.  The 9 year is usually up when I go to bed as well, although I will often ask him to either play more quietly, or go to bed to read/watch TV if he’s being too loud for others to sleep.   He sometimes has issues with volume control when he’s playing Minecraft and Skypping with his friends, so we talk a lot about respect for others who are trying to sleep (particularly his dad, who has to get up for work at 5:00 AM).  As for the five year old, we’re actually working with her on this.  Within the past several months, she wanted to keep up with the “big kids” and started staying up later and later.  Which actually would have been fine – her favorite late night activity is usually coloring, which is completely quiet – except that her body wasn’t allowing her to sleep in in the morning, so she just wasn’t getting enough sleep.  So we worked with her on getting to bed earlier… doing quiet things, reading books, laying in our bed with us, etc.   These days, she’s staying up fairly late, but she’s started sleeping later as well, so she’s well-rested.  We all got a bit off our routine over the holidays, with all the activity, people visiting, etc.  So we’re currently finding our way to back to normal. Assessing, evaluating, making changes where they’re needed.

And television?  It’s a great tool and resource, so yes, I wouldn’t arbitrarily limit it any more than I’d limit books or blocks or art supplies.   If your house is fun and happy and interesting, television becomes just another cool thing that your children could choose or not choose in any given day, no matter their age.  If it’s been previously limited, just move slowly.  🙂  “Sure, you can watch another show.”  “Of course, I’d love to watch Strawberry Shortcake with you.”  TV watching, like anything else, goes through ebbs and flows.  Sometimes they watch a lot, and sometimes they don’t watch at all for weeks at a time.

 

One other thing, we do a daily quiet time where she plays in her room for while. She’s an introvert and will happily play in her room on her own for hours at a time, much longer some days than we typically request of her for quiet time. It’s seemed to work well for her and gives her an opportunity to recharge and play in her own space without her little brother getting in her way. After reading more about unschooling though, I guess I’m questioning that, thinking maybe we should just all her to choose how and where she wants to play during that time as well, instead if restricting it to in her room. Do you have an thoughts or insights on that?

 

I’m a huge introvert, with a busy life and four kids and a husband and a house to take care of…. so the idea of spending hours alone in my bedroom sounds positively dreamy to me.  It sounds like your daughter really enjoys it, so I think it’s great that you’re facilitating that for her. There’s no need to require it though.  Some days she might not want it or need it.  Some days she might want to play with her brother, or just talk to mom.   I’ve found that my kids and I will naturally come together and move apart multiple times throughout the day…. sometimes playing together, sometimes working on our own things but in the same space, sometimes in our own space completely.   And while there are certainly times (especially towards the end of a busy day) when I’ll say something like, “I just need a couple of minutes to catch my breath and have a sip of coffee”, I pretty whole-heartedly disagree with the advice that’s often given that advocates “taking a break” from your kids.

We’re all a team, choosing to spend time together.  The years when they are young and needing and wanting lots of attention from mom go so fast,  (So fast.  SO.  FAST!)  so I do my best to embrace them. At the end of the day, what I really want is for my kids to know that mom was there. And the fact that you’re searching, and asking questions, and evaluating tells me that you want the same thing. 🙂

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Q & A – Deciding to Unschool, and My Hopes For My Children

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I’ve really been enjoying answering questions this week!  If you have questions, feel free to send them either here or on my FB page.   Just let me know if you’d rather I’d answer you privately (and please be patient… sometimes there just aren’t enough hours :))

Without further ado:

 

What lead you to unschool your kids? I know you’ve written a bit about Spencer’s beginnings as a child with certain needs that influenced your decision but I’d like to hear more!

 

This is always the hardest question for me to answer.  Not because I don’t know the answer, but because there are just so very MANY reasons that it’s difficult to know where to begin!

I first read about unschooling when my oldest Spencer (16 at the time of this writing) was still an infant.   I’d gotten some homeschooling books from the library, and there happened to be a John Holt book or two in the stack.  I don’t know what had sparked the interest in the first place, because up until I’d had a child of my own, I was one of those people who 1) Didn’t really understand homeschooling, and 2) thought that anyone who would choose it had to be either a religious zealot or a weird, crazy hippy.

But for whatever reason, I looked into it… and I just never looked back.   I found unschooling in that very first stack of books I read, and it Just. Made. Sense.  It clicked with something deep inside of me, and there was simply no way to ignore it.

I did fine in school… I got good grades, I was on the honor roll, I took advanced classes… but I spent a huge portion of it bored, wishing I were outside, or curled up in a chair reading a book, or writing a story, or painting a picture.  I wanted something different for my own kids.  So I chose differently for them.  I also chose it for me, so that they could have the experience that I didn’t get to have.  And I chose it for my husband, who spent his whole school career being told he needed to go into business and accounting, simply because he was good at math… which led to a great job, but also led to the realization that he’d gone into something that wasn’t entirely of his own choosing, as well as an admission that he’d wished he’d taken a different path, that he’d be happier if he was working outdoors, or with his hands in some way.  I chose it for all the people (and there are so many of us!) who are “out of the box” learners, the square pegs that don’t fit in the round holes, the ones who might do terribly in school…. or the ones who might do fine, but who’d be able to do so much more if they were in a more conducive environment.

I chose it because I believe John Holt when he says, “True learning – learning that is permanent and useful, that leads to intelligent action and further learning — can arise only out of the experience, interest, and concerns of the learner”

I chose it because for me, it seemed to be the most kind, respectful, individualized way for my children to learn what THEY need to learn… according to their personal paths, their interests, and their desires.  I chose it because I think that we all learn best when we are the ones who are able to decide how, when, why, what, and from whom or from what we learn.

And yes, I chose it because when Spencer was three, and receiving speech therapy services from the local public school, we got a very real taste of “the system”, and what it would mean for our family and for our sweet, intelligent, unique little boy who was already being told that he needed to be in a special school in order to be “fixed.”   We opted out, and to this day (nearly 14 years later) we happily and peacefully and gratefully stand by that decision.

 

Do you have any advice for those in small communities who are trying to get involved in a homeschool or unschooling group? I’ve been searching for over a year in my little town and it’s been like pulling teeth to try to find something. Only found one homeschooling group so far… still have yet to meet ONE single other unschooler in this town!

 

I am not a big group person.  I only somewhat recently came to terms with that, I think because there can be a real pressure to believe that groups are good and/or necessary if you’re going to homeschool.  The socialization!  The connection with others!  The community! But I don’t particularly enjoy big group activities, and 3 of my 4 kids share my sentiments.  And that’s okay.

Having said that … with the exception of a couple of dead-in-the-water park days with new groups with whom I just did not fit in, I do have to give credit where credit is due.  I’ve met some good friends through homeschool groups.  Even through the Christian group that sent me away with a bad taste in mouth after I was told I needed to read my Bible more carefully.

My suggestion would just be to keep trying, and don’t underestimate the power of your online community either! I’m at the point now that nearly all my friends, with the exception of a few that remained from childhood, are people I met through online connections.  I lived in Phoenix for a good five years before I really met any local unschoolers who I truly connected with (and even now, that number is very very small).  I’ve met with quite a few groups that weren’t a good fit.  But when the timing was right, the right people showed up in my life.  🙂  I’m very thankful for my local friends, for sure, but I’m equally as thankful for my not-as-local online tribe … the ones who were there through our move, through all the years before we really knew anybody, and through all those days when I just need to be at home.

And finally, it’s good to remember that having a close, connected, peaceful, joy-filled nuclear family is more important to unschooling than joining a group any day.

 

I was thinking about a couple of your recent posts, and thought about the line “Children live up to our expectations.” I’m wondering, what expectations do you have for your children?

 

I really love this question.  What’s interesting is that I read it wrong the first couple of times I read it.  I read it more as, “What are your hopes for your children?”  But then I realized that my hopes and my expectations for my children are one and the same.    These are also some more of the reasons that I unschool.  Not that a non-unschooling family couldn’t foster the same things, not at all.  It’s just that I find unschooling particularly conducive to my goals/hopes/expectations for my children.

I expect that my children will be able, eager and confident life-long learners.

I expect that my children will be true to their own sense of self.

I expect that my children will be kind, loving, and respectful of others.

I expect that my children will choose lives for themselves that make them happy.

I expect that my children will live lives of great value, both to themselves and to others.

Thinking of my kids and my expectations always makes me think of the Emerson quote on success.  This… this is what I want for my kids (and for myself!):

 

To laugh often and much; To win the respect of intelligent people and the affection of children; To earn the appreciation of honest critics and endure the betrayal of false friends; To appreciate beauty, to find the best in others; To leave the world a bit better, whether by a healthy child, a garden patch, or a redeemed social condition; To know even one life has breathed easier because you have lived. This is to have succeeded.

 

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Q & A – The Bible, Discipline, and Freedom

I got another great set of questions, mostly focused on discipline, and a little bit more about housekeeping…

 

“How do you reconcile Heb 12 where it talks about discipline being painful with the gentle no pain approach to parenting. It would seem to say that there are times when consequences hurt. Not spanking per se but things that aren’t pleasant. Any thoughts?

 

This is the scripture she’s referring to:

 

No discipline seems pleasant at the time, but painful. Later on, however, it produces a harvest of righteousness and peace for those who have been trained by it. (Hebrews 12:11)

 

First, I think it’s important to look at the word, “discipline.”  It’s often used as synonymous with punishment, but discipline and punishment are two different things.  Discipline simply means teaching (or on the part of the child, learning).   It means practicing a certain action, skill, or behavior in order to get better at it.  Sometimes it does hurt, absolutely.   I did 250 hours of yoga training to earn my RYT.  It was painful on many levels, but the self-discipline was worth it.  My 13 year old taught himself to play the guitar.  Lots of guitar playing wreaks havoc on your fingers early on, but he will tell you that the discipline made him a better player.  And all of us have learned lessons (or have been disciplined) by making poor decisions and reaping the natural – and sometimes painful – consequences.   It is a part of learning, and a part of life, that sometimes discipline is painful.

But do I think that it’s my job as a parent to purposely inflict that pain on my children through punishment, or that that’s what this scripture is instructing me to do?  Absolutely not.  My job is to support them, to hold their hands, and to be their soft place to fall when life deals them those hard blows.

 

Also what do you do for repeated childhood habits like not keeping the room clean or leaving everything out in the bathroom that the whole family shares?

 

I don’t think those are childhood habits.  I’ve lived with adults who do the same thing!  This is a house that we all share, and as such we all compromise and work together to respect each other’s space.  Generally speaking, if a mess is bothering me, I will clean it up.  If it’s someone else’s personal mess, and it’s in my way, I’ll just ask whoever it is if they can please come get it/clean it.  And they will.

From what I’ve seen in my own family, it’s very much just a matter of personality, and how tidy or not you may be is largely hard-wired from birth.  I have one child who is one of the neatest people I’ve ever known in real life, much like his father…. and three more who tend to make a mess everywhere they go, much like their mother.

How does it work?  We compromise.  We give and take.  We help each other out.  We take accountability for our own actions.  We speak up when something isn’t working.

 

I want to allow them freedom but when it prevents others from having a clean place how do you handle that?

 

Freedom is sort of a myth, especially when you live with other people.  I would like the freedom to curl up on the couch and watch movies all day, but there are things to do and people to feed.  🙂   And “freedom” should never involve stepping on someone else’s happiness/enjoyment/peace in his or her own home.  The way this question is framed almost makes it sound like there are two options:  1) to give the kids “freedom” and then let them take advantage of you and leave you to trip over their stuff all over the house, or 2) to make them behave a certain way through coercion, punishment, etc.  But there are other options!  It’s never all or nothing.

You can simply ask, “Hey, can you please come get xyz from the living room?”  You can pick up together.  You can keep baskets, bins, etc around the house to toss stray stuff into (just don’t make anybody have to earn it back!).  You can take a few minutes to gather up their things, and drop them for them in their rooms. You can talk to them about how you’re feeling. You can brainstorm for answers with your kids input (sometimes my kids come up with more creative and sensible solutions than I do!).

 

Or for example I sent the kids to clean the room today, 20 min later NOTHING is done! I want to honor them & give them freedom but I want them to learn how to follow instructions as well.

 

Well, first, if they have caring and involved parents, kids will learn how to follow instructions.  🙂 It’s a part of life, and they’ll learn it.

As for the room, was it a reasonable request or a requirement?  Was it a punishment?  Were they given a choice?  Were they wanting/needing to do something else at the moment?  Were they pulled away from something they were enjoying?  Was the job description too vague? Too overwhelming?  Too tedious?  Were there too many distractions?  Were they tired/hungry/angry/bored?  None of these are questions to actually answer, by the way, just questions to ask in the moment.  There are so many reasons why a person would or would not do something, and the only way to figure it out (as well as to determine the appropriate course of action the next time) is to take a step back, and look at the situation with an objective eye.  A lot of times when I’ve felt like the kids didn’t do something that I thought they should, upon reflection I realized that the problem didn’t lie with them at all.  It was me.

 

What if one child is being unkind to others? Or if everyone is arguing a lot? Or being aggravating to others? Is there ever a consequence after you’ve spoken to them about it several times that day?”

 

That was actually happening in our house yesterday.  The solution?  We suggested getting out of the house and going for a hike.  The whole family took a lovely 1.5 mile climb up a local mountain, enjoyed the views, enjoyed each other, and got some exercise to boot.   Sometimes, all it takes is a step away and a change of scenery.   Sometimes, they need to retire to their own activities for awhile.  Sometimes, it all stems from boredom. Sometimes, we need to help them figure out how to work it out.  Sometimes, the best thing to do is give them the space to figure it out on their own.

It wouldn’t be very kind or loving to simply ignore it if a child is being abused (verbally or otherwise) by a sibling. Nor would it be kind or loving to dole out some type of punishment when what the child is asking for is help.  So in that sense:  yes, yes there’s a consequence. The consequence is that Mom and/or Dad steps in and 1) protects the child who is taking the brunt of it, and 2) helps the child who is dealing with feelings so big that he can’t find another way to handle them besides lashing out at his siblings…. whether it means extra attention, time alone, or a long, beautiful hike and a big, beautiful mountain.

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What About Chores?

I recently received an email about chores, and it’s a question I’ve gotten a LOT.  I’ve written about the topic on my blog before, most recently here, but I wanted to answer the question publicly again.  Sometimes hearing something on a different day, in a different way, makes all the difference.

 

How did you handle chores? Or keeping the house clean? Until the children decided that they would help, did you do all of cleaning yourself? What about their rooms? Cleaning off the table at dinner?
 
The most useful thing I ever did when it came to chores and housekeeping was to shift my own perspective. Yes, we all live and work together as a family, and yes, it’s completely appropriate to ask for help when you need it.  But the fact is, my children don’t owe me anything.  They didn’t ask to be here.  It was the other way around! We chose to bring them into the world, and we chose to bring them into our family.   I think part of my job as a mother is to show them what it means to give unconditionally … of my time and my attention of course … but also to give them a nice, safe home, and a clean space.
 
We all go through phases when it comes to chores, kids and adults alike.  Some things just need to be done though, no matter how we feel about it.  So we just do them, and try to do them as cheerfully as possible.  🙂  I do do most of the cleaning myself, but it’s not because people won’t help me (they almost always help when I ask.) I do it because it needs to be done, because I can do it quickly, and because it’s a way to bless my family.  If I feel myself being grumpy about it, or feel like I’m becoming a martyr, then that’s a sign that something is “off” – usually within myself! – and that I need to address it.  
 
As for their own rooms, that’s their space, to keep however they’d like.   There have been discussions about things like food for sure (apple cores = ants), and I’ll put out a general call for dirty clothes when I’m doing laundry.  And if I literally can’t walk to their beds to say goodnight, that’s a safety issue, and they’ll gladly clear a path.  🙂  Other than those caveats, their rooms are theirs, to keep as messy or neat as they see fit.  Every so often, I’ll ask if they want help cleaning/sorting/decluttering, and if they say yes, we crank up some music and work on it together.  
 
Simple things like clearing off the dinner table?  We’ve always brought our own plates up to the sink.  It’s just become a habit. Sometimes I’ll do the rest.  Sometimes my husband will do it. Sometimes I’ll ask for help.  And with 6 people in the family, a simple request of “Can you guys help get this stuff put away?” gets it all done quickly.  🙂
 
In our house, there was never really a “until the children decided to help.”  They’ve always helped, save for a time or two when they’ve opted out (just as I’ve opted out.  Just as my husband has opted out.)  But yes, if people weren’t wanting/able/willing to help, I would absolutely do it myself, and wouldn’t even begin to expect others to help me until I could make peace with doing it cheerfully myself.

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Asked and Answered

I recently put out a call for questions.  Questions about unschooling, parenting, me, my blog, whatever you’d like … and you guys rose to the occasion!  Here’s the first batch of questions and answers, and the first of what I hope will become a regular feature on my blog.  If you have questions, send em, and I’ll answer them in an upcoming post.  🙂

I would love to hear some thoughts on how far to push little kids to do things? I know it would be age dependent, but I’m thinking ages 1-5 especially. Eg if a child is shy or scared or anti-social or clingy or negative about doing something where’s the line with making them do it, or respecting their feelings. Sometimes in life it’s good to do things we don’t want to. How do we help kids understand that?

I think this is one of those times that really knowing your kids is key.  I personally wouldn’t push my kids into doing something they didn’t want do… but there is a world of difference between forcing something that’s unwanted, and gently encouraging when you know it’s something that they do want, but are hesitant because they are nervous, unsure, etc.   Last summer, my daughter (four years old at the time) took her first-ever swimming class. She was very excited about the class, and about learning to swim.   The morning of the first class however, she was super nervous, to the point of asking if she could skip it.   I know my daughter, and I was 99% sure that once she got in the class she would really enjoy it.  I was also 99% sure that if she didn’t do the class that she would regret it, especially when she watched her big brother having fun in the pool in his own class.  So I was honest with her and told her, “I know you’re nervous, but I think you’re really go to love it.  And you can do it!  I bet they’re going to make it super fun for you, and I’ll be right there watching the whole time.  Why don’t you give it a try this one time, and if you don’t like it, you don’t have to come back.”  I wasn’t bluffing either:  I would have had no problem pulling her out, and letting her learn in another way.  She agreed to try it, and to make a long story short, she LOVED the class, and has since become a fish in the water.

Yes, sometimes we need to do things we don’t want to do, but life provides plenty of those opportunities all on its own.  I don’t think it’s my job as a mother to actually provide the things they don’t want to do, but to help them feel safe, comfortable, and confident when they do arise.  Going to the dentist for instance isn’t super high on any of my kids’ “Things I love to do” lists, but sometimes it’s necessary.  So we searched until we found a wonderfully kind, patient, and respectful pediatric dentist, and no one has any issues seeing her when the time comes.

I don’t have a school age child yet, but am very interested in unschooling. I have been wondering if you felt you did anything differently with your children before they were school age. I’m reading a lot about the RIE philosophy and some of it seems to be in line with the basic idea of trust that seems inherent in unschooling to me. Thank you!  

I learned something new when I got this question, so thanks! 🙂  I hadn’t heard of RIE, so I Googled a little bit.  (This article had a nice breakdown of its main tenets.)  I connect with a lot – not all – of the principles of RIE.  I think that the ideas of trust, respect, choices, and personal autonomy are so important to both unschooling and gentle parenting.   As for whether or not I did anything different when the kids were young… only to the extent that our relationships/activities/conversations grew and evolved as the kids got older.  For me, unschooling was just a natural extension of attachment parenting, and it was all so organic that I never really had a feeling of, “Okay, we’re going to start unschooling now.”  We already were… they just weren’t officially school age yet.  I do strongly feel (and many others feel this way as well) that unschooling can’t be truly understood and implemented until the parenting component is understood.  Once you “get” gentle parenting, unschooling just makes sense… and it’s a much more seamless transition than if you try to do it the other way around.

What advice would you give an unschooling mom whose 5 yr old is begging to start kindergarten?

Ask lots of questions!  What is it that they’re wanting from school that they don’t think they’ll get/are getting from home?  Is it more time on crafts?  Riding a school bus?  Being around other kids?  Recess?  It could be something really simple, especially at five years old.  Most of my kids have at one time or another asked about school.  After a conversation, careful listening, and honest sharing, I learned that it wasn’t school they were after, but something else.  Something that I could remedy through more playdates, more field trips, more one on one time, etc.  If that were ever not the case, and they truly wanted to go to school, I’d like to think that I would be 100% supportive and let them try it.  I can’t say with complete certainty though, because I’ve never been there (and if I’ve learned nothing else as a parent, it’s to never say “never”)

(on being a Christian who does not regularly go to church) I’m wondering how you keep the faith? How do you keep your relationship with God fresh and alive? Have you found a community, a “body of Christ”?

I love this question.  I have been thinking for a long time about writing a permanent page for my blog about my faith, and about where that journey has taken me.  I will say first that my faith has always been super personal to me.  Not personal in an I-don’t-want-to-talk-about it kind of way (I love talking about it), but personal in that I’ve never really felt like I needed a strictly “Christian” environment in order to nurture my relationship with God.  In fact:  I grew up going to church, went to a Christian summer camp, went to a Christian college… and those were all things that I had to heal from in many ways as an adult.  I felt like my faith was so much stronger, and finally my OWN, after I left those environments.  We do have a church “home” now, although it’s been many months since we’ve gone with regularity.  We love the church though, and it was the first one that we ever actually chose to place membership with since we’ve been married.  When we feel like it’s something we’re needing, we go, but on a day-to-day basis, I don’t know… I feel like it’s just me and God, and that relationship is no different than any other in that it stays alive with attention, with intention, and with spending time together (and you don’t have to be in a special building to do that :))

One thing that’s been hugely instrumental to me in the past several years has been finding like-minded fellow “outside the box” Christians, most of whom I only know online.  While I don’t feel like I technically need the support of others to hold up my own faith, it’s incredibly helpful just to know that they’re out there:  other people like me who fiercely love Jesus, but pretty steadfastly reject most of what conventional “religion” has to offer… Everyone from big authors/bloggers like John Shore, to dear personal friends that I’ve made through various online FB groups and forums…they’re a very appreciated breath of fresh air (and sometimes just straight-up oxygen), especially on those days when I’m feeling alone.

So our kid is 3 and we are starting to get questions about Kindergarten. I am scared to death to tell some people what we are planning!!! It does not help that I work FT and my husband stays at home with our son, which already gets enough looks as it is because it is so different. I am just scared in a year or two we’ll get people calling CPS on us or something. Some of our family is very academically minded and I am just afraid they will think we are setting our son up for failure or something. I’m just not good at confrontation. I know all the answers ‘in my heart’ but I know when accosted about it… I just don’t know quite how to deal with it. How do you deal with that type of thing, esp when you first kid ‘missed the bus’ (haha) for the first time.

I completely know how you’re feeling!  I was there myself several years ago.  I was fairly lucky in that even though many of the people in my immediate family were not particularly supportive of unschooling, they kept pretty quiet about it (save for a passive aggressive comment here and there).  One of the most helpful pieces of advice I ever read on the subject was something called the “bean dip” approach, a completely non-confrontational way to deal with naysayers.  I wish I knew where I read it, and who said it, so I could give credit, but all I remember is that I read it on some unschooling forums many years ago.  It goes like this:

Family member:  (Negative/derogatory/judging comment)

Response:  “Oh, he’s doing great!  Can you please pass the bean dip?”

Or

“This is working really well for our family right now.  Can you please pass the bean dip?”

Or

“That’s an interesting perspective.  Can you please pass the bean dip?”

Politely changing the subject can work wonders.  Honestly though, the biggest solution to this problem is just time.  Two really big things happen over time:

1.  Your kids learn and grow and mature in ways that can’t help but be seen, even by those outside your family.  They’ll see how much they’re learning, and they’ll have tangible “proof” of unschooling’s success.  And

2.  You’ll gain confidence in your kids, and confidence in the process.  It won’t be so scary when others disagree, because you’ll trust unschooling, you’ll trust your children, and you’ll trust their learning process.  In the meantime, focus on your own little family, and be ready to pass the bean dip.  🙂

I read that you almost went to the Rethinking Everything conference and I’d be interested to read a post/answer on conferences you’ve went to in the past and how you think they benefited you and your kids.

I really love unschooling conferences.  I find them sort of terrifying, just because… well, introverts and large crowds… but I love them too.   We’ve only been to a handful so far, but definitely plan to attend more in the future. We’ve gone to three of the big conferences (two in San Diego, and one in Alburquerque), and a few smaller ones.  Conferences are really cool for lots of reasons, but if I were pressed to name only a few, they would be:

1.  New information.  You can’t go to an unschooling conference and not learn something new.  You can’t.  I don’t care who you are, or how long you’ve been unschooling.  We’ve all learned so, so much from the conferences we’ve gone to… both from the official scheduled “talks”, and incidental interactions we had along the way.

2.  New friends.  Some of my nearest and dearest friends are people I met at conferences.  The 12 year old is playing an online game with a conference friend as I write.  And there’s something big to be said just for being around other people who “get it”, even if it’s only for a weekend.   Which brings me to:

3.  New inspiration.  In case you didn’t get this from reading other posts on my blog, I am hugely passionate about unschooling.  But while my normal mode of sharing may be quietly standing on a street corner (or typing in my pajamas that I’ve been wearing for two days, sitting on my couch as it were) saying, “Yay!  Unschooling!”, immediately following a conference it’s more like standing on the rooftops shouting,

“WOOO HOOOOOOO!!!!  UNSCHOOLING!!!!!!!”

They just get you pumped up, and fired up, and EXCITED about unschooling.

All of that to say, if you ever get the opportunity (and you should make the opportunity)  go!  You will love it.

Sounds silly but what pets do you guys have now? I miss your funny animal posts!

My husband and I disagree on exactly two things:  politics and pets.  If it were solely up to me, we would have to build a second house to hold all the cats/dogs/rabbits/rats/reptiles we’d acquire because I so love animals, and can never resist a rescue-able furry (or scaly) face when I see one.  If it were up to Mike, we would have zero pets.  Ever. Rescued from anywhere.  So we compromise.  Right now, we have just a few pets – although the kids and I are holding out hope for a turtle in the near future.

There’s Sophie, who with the exception of jumping, and sometimes peeing, when she gets too excited, is the world’s most perfect dog.

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Then there’s Linny and Ming-Ming, the two mice I picked up with the kids one day when Mike was at work:

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And finally, our ball python Waldo, who is sweet and funny, and loves to hang upside-down from his branch:

Waldo

And that’s it!  We have about 1900 square feet of house here.  Clearly there’s room for so very many more….

Thanks to everyone who have sent questions so far!  That was fun.

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